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rules and guidelines explanations and examples
the frenz mailinglist is designed as a place for announcements and conversation about frenz.com as well as past, present, and future projects that involve members of Split Enz, Crowded House, or any group or project that includes at least one related musician.
the frenz mailinglist covers the following:
FRENZ.COM-related things including notification of site or subsites being updated or created, discussions based on frenz.com content (ie: Peter Green's diary entry or our discography database), frenz.com enhancements and evolution, discussions that grow out of forum posts/threads, announcements of special frenz.com offers and contests
MUSICIANS including Brian "Tim" Finn, Phil Judd, Geoffrey "Noel" Crombie, Anthony "Eddie" Rayner, Paul "Emelyn" Crowther, Jonathan "Mike" Chunn, Geoff Chunn, Wally Wilkinson, Mike Howard, Miles Golding, Robert Gillies, Neil Finn, Nigel Griggs, Mal Green, Paul Hester, Nick Seymour, Mark Hart, and Liam Finn.
BANDS and PROJECTS include: Split Ends, Split Enz, The Mullanes, Crowded House, Noel's Cowards, Schnell Fenster, Brainwaves, ENZSO, Finn Brothers, DeadStar, The Swingers, ALT, Largest Living Things, Deckchairs Overboard, The Makers, and Lazy Boy. Also included are solo and production projects of the abovementioned musicians. [back]
"for sale", "for trade", and "wanted" posts are allowed though the subject of the post must contain "sale," "trade," or "wanted" so that people who are not interested can avoid the post. selling fan club cds/photos OR copies of them is not allowed in general and especially on this list.
the no selling cds, photos, or copies thereof is a fan club mandate AND it just happens to be copyright and trademark infringement; this includes CD-Rs of albums, shows, and fan club cds. [back]
the following are off topic: discussion of peripheral musicians outside of the work they did with Frenz-related members and projects; discussion of other musicians, Australasian or not, who have NOT been part of any frenz-related band or project.
discussion of Bones Hillman's work in The Swingers is relevant whereas discussion of his time as a bandmember in Midnight Oil is not. however, we believe that mentioning that Bones is in Midnight Oil or that Robert Gillies works for Xena: Warrior Princess is OK since some people may not have known that, and can then pursue Midnight Oil or Xena outside of frenz.com and the mailinglist. [back]
postings about where recorded frenz-related music was heard may be off topic.
"My local radio station played 'Something So Strong' today," or "I heard 'Chocolate Cake' in Kmart today." however, if you find a live broadcast or a place online where people can hear frenz-related music, that is very relevant! also, if you heard a song in Kmart while watching Nick Seymour pick out fishing equipment before your very eyes, that's an on-topic post! [back]
running a recurring "_____ of the week" request for discussion on a specific song, album, or musician is not for this list.
The "Song of the Week" is a fave on the Tongue in the Mail mailing list. That feature was originally theirs, and works well for them. We are not against the discussion of music, lyrics, or songs. We are not against people choosing frenz-related songs and asking questions of list members, in fact, we couldn't encourage it more. However, we currently see no need for this list to have a scheduled "everyone talk about this now on these points of discussion." We feel that this list does not need a special occasion or _____ of the week to talk about a specific song, nor do we want, at this time, any particular list member to be in charge of a recurring list feature. [back]
please don't flame, bicker or dis anyone. someone may have a fact (like what colour was Neil's shirt on what night) but nobody has the best or only way to perceive or understand anything about music, these musicians, or music business. if you have a problem with another subscriber or something he/she said, please take that up with that individual privately.
while you don't have to like other people's opinions, please do your best to be accepting, tolerant, and allowing of what other people hear, feel, and perceive. "Anyone who doesn't like the ALT album obviously doesn't understand music and the purpose of human existence," is the type of remark we hope to not see on this list. part of the beauty of life is that not everybody thinks the way you do; please choose to honour differences you may find instead of attacking people for not liking what you like or hearing what you hear. personal attacks of any nature, either to a specific person, a comment one person made, or attacking people of a certain opinion or persuasion are RIGHT OUT. if you need to release aggression, we recommend going to the gym, therapy, or meditation. please do not take anger out at the list even if you feel the list or someone on it caused it. you can always email the list admins and discuss what you are thinking. [back]
profanity, vulgarity, or curse words not related directly to a quote from a frenz song or musician should be excluded from your post.
they are unnecessary, offensive to some, and may cause problems for people receiving these mails at work; many companies keep and monitor all mails coming to and going from each employee. it is possible that a random fan employed by such a company could get into some sort of trouble or at least be asked to unsubscribe if the company has a policy on acceptable language for emails. you may use interjections and exclamations (we're not trying to squash excited or frustrated expression!), but please no swear words. some recommended replacement phrases are, "oh my," "holy cats" or "holy cow," and for you scooby doo fans, "zoikes." :) the only exception for this "rule" would be if you are quoting a frenz-related person or song. in that case, please "bleep" out the word so that you end up with s**t, for example. [back]
if you feel like you should be putting "not frenz related" in the subject or body of your post, it probably doesn't belong on this list.
while we expect the list to be social and friendly, we do not want personal posts or threads that are blatantly not about the musicians and their music, ie: "Do you like basketball?" or "Can anyone send me a good guacamole recipe?" [back]
please refrain from posting non-informative matter, one-line terse posts, or that only say "me too, yeah I agree," or "thanks."
non-informative would be content that is either off topic based on other rules, such as a run-down of your day (with very little frenz/finn to speak of). a good rule to go by is to take a look at what you want to share... if you think it might spark or continue conversation, send it in! if it's a random comment or short showing of support or disagreement (without additional facts, thoughts, or opinions), it's probably best sent privately to the relevant people. [back]
please do NOT send emails that contain HTML, styles, or formatting.
this includes when you change text colour and font size and the like. many email applications do NOT recognise these instructions, but DO put in gobbledygook that the recipient sees. so if you can turn off HTML messages or "styled" messages, that would probably be best. [back]